Cloud Out Loud Podcast

Episode 18 - The Cloudy Wisdom of Simon Wardley

September 02, 2022 Jon and Logan Gallagher
Episode 18 - The Cloudy Wisdom of Simon Wardley
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Episode 18 - The Cloudy Wisdom of Simon Wardley
Sep 02, 2022
Jon and Logan Gallagher

Episode 18: Show Notes


Recently we’ve seen some big dollar commitments from companies to facilitate their move towards cloud. While we are big fans of cloud and going serverless, there are some key issues with these types of public commitments (with huge sums of money behind them) that bear interrogation. In today’s episode, we consult a Twitter thread by Simon Wardley, a British researcher, and former CEO best known for the creation of Wardley mapping, to help us break down what we can learn from these trends and how to find a better path forward. Tuning in you’ll hear us unpack why many of these financial commitments can be described as vanity projects, why a successful cloud journey is best undertaken through small steps, and why any large company in the IT space only starting this journey now is way behind the times. We also discuss why 80 percent of IT projects fail, the benefits of going serverless, and how to start building a culture around using serverless technologies. Tune in today for a spicy overview of these topics and the cloudy wisdom of Simon Wardley!


Key Points From This Episode:

Introducing today’s topic: The Cloudy Wisdom of Simon Wardley

  • Learn about Simon Wardley and the Twitter thread that inspired today’s episode.
  • Why big companies that are only investing in cloud now, in 2022, are way behind the times.
  • How large companies are spending huge sums on vanity projects related to cloud computing and why they won’t deliver on their promises.
  • An outline of why 80 percent of IT projects fail.
  • Why IT solutions and cloud projects are best achieved through a succession of small steps, rather than a large vanity project.
  • What we can learn from the close access Simon Wardley has to C-suite executives.
  • Why large sum investments in cloud, especially those issued in press releases, are often more about moving markets rather than solutions or products.
  • Why companies need to be engaging more closely with their engineering staff.
  • The conclusion of Wardley’s thread and why he is advocating for going serverless.
  • How to start building a culture around using serverless technologies.

Tweetables:

“If you're trying to tell me that you're spending a big dollar amount on cloud, you're behind the times. And often five to six years behind the times, because at this point a lot of companies have stopped just talking about that, and are well underway on that cloud journey.” — Logan Gallagher [0:01:58]

“In 2022, if you are a large corporation [that’s] been in business and IT is a critical aspect of your company. If you're not in the cloud and actively looking to decommission data centers, you're way, way, way behind the times.” — Jon Gallagher [0:02:35]

“Remember, the awful truth about IT is that 80% of IT efforts and IT projects fail. And that is a hard, goshdarn number.” — Jon Gallagher [0:05:43]

“That dollar amount, especially in these press releases, appears to just be to move markets and maybe not actually move products.” — Logan Gallagher [0:08:41]


Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

Simon Wardley on LinkedIn

Simon Wardley on Twitter

Simon Wardley Twitter Thread

Platformonomics

Jon Gallagher on LinkedIn

Logan Gallagher on LinkedIn

Show Notes

Episode 18: Show Notes


Recently we’ve seen some big dollar commitments from companies to facilitate their move towards cloud. While we are big fans of cloud and going serverless, there are some key issues with these types of public commitments (with huge sums of money behind them) that bear interrogation. In today’s episode, we consult a Twitter thread by Simon Wardley, a British researcher, and former CEO best known for the creation of Wardley mapping, to help us break down what we can learn from these trends and how to find a better path forward. Tuning in you’ll hear us unpack why many of these financial commitments can be described as vanity projects, why a successful cloud journey is best undertaken through small steps, and why any large company in the IT space only starting this journey now is way behind the times. We also discuss why 80 percent of IT projects fail, the benefits of going serverless, and how to start building a culture around using serverless technologies. Tune in today for a spicy overview of these topics and the cloudy wisdom of Simon Wardley!


Key Points From This Episode:

Introducing today’s topic: The Cloudy Wisdom of Simon Wardley

  • Learn about Simon Wardley and the Twitter thread that inspired today’s episode.
  • Why big companies that are only investing in cloud now, in 2022, are way behind the times.
  • How large companies are spending huge sums on vanity projects related to cloud computing and why they won’t deliver on their promises.
  • An outline of why 80 percent of IT projects fail.
  • Why IT solutions and cloud projects are best achieved through a succession of small steps, rather than a large vanity project.
  • What we can learn from the close access Simon Wardley has to C-suite executives.
  • Why large sum investments in cloud, especially those issued in press releases, are often more about moving markets rather than solutions or products.
  • Why companies need to be engaging more closely with their engineering staff.
  • The conclusion of Wardley’s thread and why he is advocating for going serverless.
  • How to start building a culture around using serverless technologies.

Tweetables:

“If you're trying to tell me that you're spending a big dollar amount on cloud, you're behind the times. And often five to six years behind the times, because at this point a lot of companies have stopped just talking about that, and are well underway on that cloud journey.” — Logan Gallagher [0:01:58]

“In 2022, if you are a large corporation [that’s] been in business and IT is a critical aspect of your company. If you're not in the cloud and actively looking to decommission data centers, you're way, way, way behind the times.” — Jon Gallagher [0:02:35]

“Remember, the awful truth about IT is that 80% of IT efforts and IT projects fail. And that is a hard, goshdarn number.” — Jon Gallagher [0:05:43]

“That dollar amount, especially in these press releases, appears to just be to move markets and maybe not actually move products.” — Logan Gallagher [0:08:41]


Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:

Simon Wardley on LinkedIn

Simon Wardley on Twitter

Simon Wardley Twitter Thread

Platformonomics

Jon Gallagher on LinkedIn

Logan Gallagher on LinkedIn