Cloud Out Loud Podcast

Episode 22 - The Effects of Rampant Immaturity in High Tech

November 16, 2022 Jon and Logan Gallagher Season 1 Episode 22
Episode 22 - The Effects of Rampant Immaturity in High Tech
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Cloud Out Loud Podcast
Episode 22 - The Effects of Rampant Immaturity in High Tech
Nov 16, 2022 Season 1 Episode 22
Jon and Logan Gallagher

Episode 22: Show Notes

‌The past week in tech has been eventful, to say the least. FTX declared bankruptcy, Elon Musk is sowing chaos with his latest decisions at Twitter, and David Heinemeier Hansson published a post on his decision to move 37signals off of the cloud. In today’s episode, we take a closer look at the high cost of cloud services and what can be done to make these services more affordable for users. We investigate 37signals’ move away from the cloud, why it was the right choice for their company, and how the responsibility is falling on engineers to make cost-effective decisions without compromising quality. Our conversation also covers Mike Julian’s article for The Duckbill Group called Why Cloud Finance Is Broken and Ineffective, and what the Japanese concept of Kaizen can teach business leaders about continuous improvement. For an informative episode on the state of cloud finance and what to do about it, make sure you tune in today!


Key Points From This Episode:


  • An overview of the eventful news in tech this week.
  • The latest developments at FTX and Twitter.
  • The evidence of immaturity in the tech space and how it’s reflected in its leadership.
  • Why the cloud marketplace and cloud engineering are still in their infancy.
  • Evidence that companies are paying too much to be in the cloud.
  • David Heinemeier Hansson’s decision to move 37signals off of the cloud.
  • Why this decision makes sense for his organization.
  • An overview of Mike Julian’s article for The Duckbill Group: Why Cloud Finance Is Broken and Ineffective.
  • The pressure on engineering teams to develop an effective product that is also the most cost-efficient.
  • Why it’s so important for everyone in your company to understand the business flow.
  • The next step into maturity that tech companies need to take.
  • The Japanese concept of Kaizen and how to implement it to improve business processes.

Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:


37signals

The Duckbill Group

Why we're leaving the cloud

Why Cloud Finance Is Broken and Ineffective

How to Use Kaizen Methodology to Improve Business Processes

Jon Gallagher on LinkedIn

Logan Gallagher on LinkedIn

Show Notes

Episode 22: Show Notes

‌The past week in tech has been eventful, to say the least. FTX declared bankruptcy, Elon Musk is sowing chaos with his latest decisions at Twitter, and David Heinemeier Hansson published a post on his decision to move 37signals off of the cloud. In today’s episode, we take a closer look at the high cost of cloud services and what can be done to make these services more affordable for users. We investigate 37signals’ move away from the cloud, why it was the right choice for their company, and how the responsibility is falling on engineers to make cost-effective decisions without compromising quality. Our conversation also covers Mike Julian’s article for The Duckbill Group called Why Cloud Finance Is Broken and Ineffective, and what the Japanese concept of Kaizen can teach business leaders about continuous improvement. For an informative episode on the state of cloud finance and what to do about it, make sure you tune in today!


Key Points From This Episode:


  • An overview of the eventful news in tech this week.
  • The latest developments at FTX and Twitter.
  • The evidence of immaturity in the tech space and how it’s reflected in its leadership.
  • Why the cloud marketplace and cloud engineering are still in their infancy.
  • Evidence that companies are paying too much to be in the cloud.
  • David Heinemeier Hansson’s decision to move 37signals off of the cloud.
  • Why this decision makes sense for his organization.
  • An overview of Mike Julian’s article for The Duckbill Group: Why Cloud Finance Is Broken and Ineffective.
  • The pressure on engineering teams to develop an effective product that is also the most cost-efficient.
  • Why it’s so important for everyone in your company to understand the business flow.
  • The next step into maturity that tech companies need to take.
  • The Japanese concept of Kaizen and how to implement it to improve business processes.

Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:


37signals

The Duckbill Group

Why we're leaving the cloud

Why Cloud Finance Is Broken and Ineffective

How to Use Kaizen Methodology to Improve Business Processes

Jon Gallagher on LinkedIn

Logan Gallagher on LinkedIn