Cloud Out Loud Podcast

Episode 23 - Getting into IT and Cloud Security

November 22, 2022 Jon and Logan Gallagher Season 1 Episode 23
Episode 23 - Getting into IT and Cloud Security
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Cloud Out Loud Podcast
Episode 23 - Getting into IT and Cloud Security
Nov 22, 2022 Season 1 Episode 23
Jon and Logan Gallagher

Demystifying the Security Career Path with Marsha Wilson


Episode 23: Show Notes


Today we welcome back popular guest Marsha Wilson from ScaleSec, as we unpack some of the particulars about what a career in security requires and can look like. Marsha's wealth of experience and insight are so helpful in answering some of the fundamental questions that aspiring security professionals may have now and a little further down the road too, and in our chat, we get to cover the most important of these. Our guest shares her perspective on the best characteristics to embody when stepping into a new role, how security can be integrated with product management, why a natural passion for the field is irreplaceable, and much more. She also shares some powerful questions that can help you uncover where you would like to set your sights and focus your energy. Towards the end of our chat, Marsha talks a little about the help she offers companies who employ her hiring expertise, before we sign off with some closing thoughts about the security field and ScaleSec going into a new year. Join us to hear it all!


Key Points From This Episode:


  • General thoughts on the best steps for getting started as a professional in the security space.
  • Forward-thinking and detail-orientation; the value of these qualities early on.
  • Learning about and engaging with risk as a means to make progress. 
  • Integrating security and product management teams in sensible ways.  
  • Comparing the paths of internal security professionals and consultants. 
  • The passion and personal interest that is necessary to have success in security.  
  • Technology disruption and content moderation; limitations in the current landscape. 
  • The process that Marsha goes through when helping companies find the right person to hire.  
  • Plans going into the final stages of the year and into 2023! 


Tweetables:


“I would say find the thing that is curious for you.” — Marsha Wilson [0:02:44]


“In the beginning, when you are trying to demonstrate that you understand what is going on in your environment from a security perspective, detail-orientation is very important.” — Marsha Wilson [0:06:59]


“I think consuming ultimately vote with their feet, and if they are not leaving, there is no motivation for them to change.” — Marsha Wilson [0:19:59]


“Even reading things that are not specific to your industry, still broadens your mind, still gives your things to mentally munch on, that you bring back fresh and clear, provocative ideas to your team.” — Marsha Wilson [0:34:15]


Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:


Marsha Wilson on LinkedIn

ScaleSec

Shel Silverstein

Jon Gallagher on LinkedIn

Logan Gallagher on LinkedIn

Show Notes

Demystifying the Security Career Path with Marsha Wilson


Episode 23: Show Notes


Today we welcome back popular guest Marsha Wilson from ScaleSec, as we unpack some of the particulars about what a career in security requires and can look like. Marsha's wealth of experience and insight are so helpful in answering some of the fundamental questions that aspiring security professionals may have now and a little further down the road too, and in our chat, we get to cover the most important of these. Our guest shares her perspective on the best characteristics to embody when stepping into a new role, how security can be integrated with product management, why a natural passion for the field is irreplaceable, and much more. She also shares some powerful questions that can help you uncover where you would like to set your sights and focus your energy. Towards the end of our chat, Marsha talks a little about the help she offers companies who employ her hiring expertise, before we sign off with some closing thoughts about the security field and ScaleSec going into a new year. Join us to hear it all!


Key Points From This Episode:


  • General thoughts on the best steps for getting started as a professional in the security space.
  • Forward-thinking and detail-orientation; the value of these qualities early on.
  • Learning about and engaging with risk as a means to make progress. 
  • Integrating security and product management teams in sensible ways.  
  • Comparing the paths of internal security professionals and consultants. 
  • The passion and personal interest that is necessary to have success in security.  
  • Technology disruption and content moderation; limitations in the current landscape. 
  • The process that Marsha goes through when helping companies find the right person to hire.  
  • Plans going into the final stages of the year and into 2023! 


Tweetables:


“I would say find the thing that is curious for you.” — Marsha Wilson [0:02:44]


“In the beginning, when you are trying to demonstrate that you understand what is going on in your environment from a security perspective, detail-orientation is very important.” — Marsha Wilson [0:06:59]


“I think consuming ultimately vote with their feet, and if they are not leaving, there is no motivation for them to change.” — Marsha Wilson [0:19:59]


“Even reading things that are not specific to your industry, still broadens your mind, still gives your things to mentally munch on, that you bring back fresh and clear, provocative ideas to your team.” — Marsha Wilson [0:34:15]


Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:


Marsha Wilson on LinkedIn

ScaleSec

Shel Silverstein

Jon Gallagher on LinkedIn

Logan Gallagher on LinkedIn